The real reason why Patrick Chung opted out

[Willie99]

"I have a girlfriend that’s pregnant, a baby girl coming soon, my son has a little asthma, my dad is 75 years old. I just felt like this was the best decision for my family to keep everyone safe. I don’t think it’s fair to them. So I decided to do that. It’s not over. It’s just postponed a little bit."

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So he's protecting what he believes to be a high risk demographic, something we all believe the nation should be doing and something we all believe he has the freedom to choose

As for money, he's a wealthy man that can take a year off and live on $ 150,000 or $ 350,000, possibly have a year added to his pension and then return to football (I'm not sure what having high risk coinhabitants actually translates too, does that make him a high risk opt-out? or will they come up with something in between?)

Patrick Chung is NOT at risk of losing everything, money is less important. FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING FORCED TO LOSE EVERYTHING, they might make a different decision and they should have the freedom to fight for their lives.

That's real talk, not some superficial headline written by superficial people who think they're qualified to live your lives for you.

 

[Willie99]

Some people simply can't comprehend the real concept of "freedom". It's obvious most of those same people who are screaming "lock down" and cry that "they're be oppressed" have no fucking idea what oppression really is and can't see the hypocrisy in their inconsistent positions

 

[Knightrofins]

Sorry Willie. My coffee hasn’t kicked in yet.

is it ok if Chung isn’t playing or not?

 

[Willie99]

So he's protecting what he believes to be a high risk demographic, something we all believe the nation should be doing and something we all believe he has the freedom to choose

 

[Knightrofins]

So he's protecting what he believes to be a high risk demographic, something we all believe the nation should be doing and something we all believe he has the freedom to choose

yes 100%.

I am currently doing the same thing but according To 75% of this forum, it’s frowned upon

 

[Enfuego]

yes 100%.

I am currently doing the same thing but according To 75% of this forum, it’s frowned upon[/QUOTE]

Nobody has said this. We've been consistent all along that those with pre-existing conditions (kid with asthma in this case) and people 65 and over need to stay safe from the general population.

Again, people that are under 65 with no pre-existing conditions have less than a 0.001% chance of dying from COVID. The numbers/stats are what they are and the data is clear.

 

[Enfuego]

What do these players get paid if they opt out?

 

[StevieRay]

Braves OF Nick Markakis optsback in for MLB season. Atlanta Braves outfielder Nick Markakis was one of the first MLB players to opt-out of the 2020 MLB season. The 2018 All-Star slugger will now be the first player to opt back in, following a change of heart.

 

[JOH]

Braves OF Nick Markakis optsback in for MLB season. Atlanta Braves outfielder Nick Markakis was one of the first MLB players to opt-out of the 2020 MLB season. The 2018 All-Star slugger will now be the first player to opt back in, following a change of heart.

StevieRay, I appreciate the regular font. How about sticking to that, eh?

 

[rolltide]

he's also made >$1/yr for 10 straight years and >$2.5M for 5 straight years which absolutely plays into his decision and into Hightower's decision. He can talk about his dad's age all he wants but when you made $20M in a decade you can afford to do whatever you want

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

Yes he is saying what everyone with common sense during this should say. If you are around high risk people or you are high risk, you shouldn’t downplay this and you should take all precautions and you shouldn’t cry and complain about how this is the situation and refuse to wear a mask like the Karen’s and the right wingers.

 

[Knightrofins]

What do these players get paid if they opt out?

I want to say the Doctor from the Chiefs is receiving 150k for the year

 

[Knightrofins]

yes 100%.

I am currently doing the same thing but according To 75% of this forum, it’s frowned upon[/QUOTE]

Nobody has said this. We've been consistent all along that those with pre-existing conditions (kid with asthma in this case) and people 65 and over need to stay safe from the general population.

Again, people that are under 65 with no pre-existing conditions have less than a 0.001% chance of dying from COVID. The numbers/stats are what they are and the data is clear.

See post number 4.

This is what I 100000% am doing and totally believe

Its not catching COVID. Its catching COVID and passing it along to a loved one who isnt in the best health

 

[Willie99]

And you have the freedom to make those choices, nobody denies you those freedoms

 

[crudebar]

Yes he is saying what everyone with common sense during this should say. If you are around high risk people or you are high risk, you shouldn’t downplay this and you should take all precautions and you shouldn’t cry and complain about how this is the situation and refuse to wear a mask like the Karen’s and the right wingers.

Who isn't around high risk people. I don't even think the OP even knows what he is arguing anymore. I guess because the player is on New England it's now okay to do what he has been arguing against since the beginning. Who knows. He is a good poster though, i enjoy reading his stuff actually, not very bright but entertaining.

 

[Enfuego]

See post number 4.

This is what I 100000% am doing and totally believe

Its not catching COVID. Its catching COVID and passing it along to a loved one who isnt in the best health

Most of us agree. Why did you say 75% here don't agree with that?

 

[Knightrofins]

Most of us agree. Why did you say 75% here don't agree with that?

From what i gather in an unscientific poll, it seems like that.

 

[X-Files]

Yes he is saying what everyone with common sense during this should say. If you are around high risk people or you are high risk, you shouldn’t downplay this and you should take all precautions and you shouldn’t cry and complain about how this is the situation and refuse to wear a mask like the Karen’s and the right wingers.

"A Doctor Explains Why 45% Of All Americans Refuse To Wear A Protective Mask

We are living in strange times.

On a quick trip to the gas station, you might pass dozens of people wearing protective masks and face-coverings. It’s an attempt to not only protect themselves but to protect others. You might also see dozens of people who don’t bother.

Sadly, a new study reveals that only about half of us are wearing masks — about 55% total. There are quite a few theories about why that is. Some would say it’s because of American independence and resistance to authority, others would chalk up to sheer ignorance. At least one doctor has a different view.

“I think people are hesitant to wear masks due to our culture and humans are used to using their faces to express emotions and communicate,” says Dr. Henry Redel, the Chief of Infectious Disease at Saint Peter’s University Hospital in New Brunswick, NJ. “It is a big change. Cultures in Asia, where respiratory viruses have caused epidemics in the past, have adapted culturally to the practice and had better results during this pandemic. I think the American public can, too.”
Dr. Redel says the cultural shift does need to happen soon.


He argues that 100% of people in public need to wear masks, and the more protective the better. A cloth mask is far superior to not wearing a mask at all, although he says it is only about 30% effective at stopping the droplets that cause coronavirus and the resulting illness COVID-19 to spread.

“The more masked people in public, the less opportunity for the virus to spread,” he says. “Much of the spread comes from asymptomatic hosts, so masking even without symptoms is still protective. A cloth mask decreases the amount of virus that is able to spread from person to person, and is better than wearing no mask at all.”


“The health of their fellow citizens and the general public is the best reason,” he explained further. “By wearing a mask you can protect the people around you, family, friends and the general public. Not everyone is healthy and many people have medical conditions and impaired immune systems. If we all want to get back to ‘normal’ then wearing a mask is the way to do it and it shows consideration for our communities.”

Study after study indicates that masks can help.

One study found that masks help when someone coughs near you, which releases as many as 3,000 droplets.

Another study found masks have a meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

Education can help.

When you know one cough can spread that many droplets, it is not at all wise to go out in public without a mask where people might be coughing near you.
It’s not a tough decision. Wear a mask. It’s the doctor’s order.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnbb...efuse-to-wear-a-protective-mask/#3f4fe444213d

 

[cgarn]

When my wife's floor at the hospital got turn into a Covid floor, not one nurse quit. They all went to work.

 

[JavyBaez9]

yes 100%.

I am currently doing the same thing but according To 75% of this forum, it’s frowned upon

Wrong. If you're in a high risk demographic, you can make your own choices. I even support employers not being able to fire high risk people if they say they can't come into work. Almost everyone supports that.

But why should healthy 25 year olds, who have a 1 in 100,000 chance from dying from this, more of a chance they die in the car on the way to work, literally, why the fuck should they be mandated to do anything?